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	<title>Comments on: The Future of Futuristic SF</title>
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		<title>By: hyperpat</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But no other recent YA book has come even close to her sales. Few do more than earn out their advances, if that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But no other recent YA book has come even close to her sales. Few do more than earn out their advances, if that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not lucrative enough? Just ask J.K. Rowlings if it isn&#039;t lucrative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not lucrative enough? Just ask J.K. Rowlings if it isn&#8217;t lucrative!</p>
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		<title>By: hyperpat</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that those doing YA works today have pretty much all gone over to the fantasy camp (not that there&#039;s anything wrong with that, it&#039;s just not SF). The latest I&#039;ve read is China Mieville&#039;s Un Lun Dun, which was actually quite good, with Mieville&#039;s typical absolutely outrageous flights of fancy and great images. 

Varley&#039;s Red Lightning and Red Thunder and Spider Robinson&#039;s The Free Lunch are about the only recent ones I can think of within the SF field. These are good, but just not enough! Heinlein wrote at least one/year (in addition to his adult works), Norton often put out three or four in a year, and the young reader knew that these authors put out something for them on a regular basis. Perhaps the YA market just doesn&#039;t seem lucrative enough for today&#039;s authors to devote themselves to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that those doing YA works today have pretty much all gone over to the fantasy camp (not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that, it&#8217;s just not SF). The latest I&#8217;ve read is China Mieville&#8217;s Un Lun Dun, which was actually quite good, with Mieville&#8217;s typical absolutely outrageous flights of fancy and great images. </p>
<p>Varley&#8217;s Red Lightning and Red Thunder and Spider Robinson&#8217;s The Free Lunch are about the only recent ones I can think of within the SF field. These are good, but just not enough! Heinlein wrote at least one/year (in addition to his adult works), Norton often put out three or four in a year, and the young reader knew that these authors put out something for them on a regular basis. Perhaps the YA market just doesn&#8217;t seem lucrative enough for today&#8217;s authors to devote themselves to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-848</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been a couple of attempts to get a YA space series or science series going, but most have failed. Have you seen the latest attempt to do Tom Swift, Jr.? Horrible scientific mistakes, silly writing &quot;PC characters&quot;, etc. Charles Sheffield had his &quot;Jupiter&quot; series several years ago, but most of the entries were pretty mundane. 

Where are the &quot;Mad Scientist Club&quot;&#039;s, the Heinlein YA series, the Andre Norton&#039;s of today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been a couple of attempts to get a YA space series or science series going, but most have failed. Have you seen the latest attempt to do Tom Swift, Jr.? Horrible scientific mistakes, silly writing &#8220;PC characters&#8221;, etc. Charles Sheffield had his &#8220;Jupiter&#8221; series several years ago, but most of the entries were pretty mundane. </p>
<p>Where are the &#8220;Mad Scientist Club&#8221;&#8217;s, the Heinlein YA series, the Andre Norton&#8217;s of today?</p>
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		<title>By: hyperpat</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-847</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expect to see HP in Space on the shelves next week! There probably is some fan-fic out there that is already exploring this concept. And if something like this were ever really produced and published, it just might help the overall sales of SF, as it would serve as an entry point for readers to get interested in the genre. This is a point that Scalzi has also brought up, along with the complaint that as of right now there don&#039;t seem to be any easy entry points of this nature: popular, understandable, and leading to the desire to find more of the same.

However, even when HP gets his light-sabre, it still won&#039;t fix the basic headache. Cutting edge scientific theory has moved well beyond the range of things the average person can understand. A rocket to the moon? Outrageously impossible in 1870, but the &lt;i&gt;concept&lt;/i&gt; was very comprehensible, another new frontier that was just a little harder to get to, and didn&#039;t require you to actually &lt;i&gt;be&lt;/i&gt; a rocket scientist to understand. What&#039;s comparable to this today? Dark energy, black holes, the &#039;Singularity&#039;, quantum mechanics as it applies to the macro world, nano-bots, AI&#039;s running the world&#039;s economy, etc, etc. It&#039;s difficult to use these things in a novel without providing some explanation of what they are and how they work, as most people have neither heard of nor thought about these possibilities, nor can most relate such things to their everyday lives of today. People don&#039;t dream about what it would be like to become an uploaded computer consciousness, certainly not the way a great many people dreamed about going to outer space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expect to see HP in Space on the shelves next week! There probably is some fan-fic out there that is already exploring this concept. And if something like this were ever really produced and published, it just might help the overall sales of SF, as it would serve as an entry point for readers to get interested in the genre. This is a point that Scalzi has also brought up, along with the complaint that as of right now there don&#8217;t seem to be any easy entry points of this nature: popular, understandable, and leading to the desire to find more of the same.</p>
<p>However, even when HP gets his light-sabre, it still won&#8217;t fix the basic headache. Cutting edge scientific theory has moved well beyond the range of things the average person can understand. A rocket to the moon? Outrageously impossible in 1870, but the <i>concept</i> was very comprehensible, another new frontier that was just a little harder to get to, and didn&#8217;t require you to actually <i>be</i> a rocket scientist to understand. What&#8217;s comparable to this today? Dark energy, black holes, the &#8216;Singularity&#8217;, quantum mechanics as it applies to the macro world, nano-bots, AI&#8217;s running the world&#8217;s economy, etc, etc. It&#8217;s difficult to use these things in a novel without providing some explanation of what they are and how they work, as most people have neither heard of nor thought about these possibilities, nor can most relate such things to their everyday lives of today. People don&#8217;t dream about what it would be like to become an uploaded computer consciousness, certainly not the way a great many people dreamed about going to outer space.</p>
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		<title>By: fencer</title>
		<link>http://hyperpat.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-future-of-futuristic-sf/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>fencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of it may be that there aren&#039;t many scientific developments lately that have caught the popular imagination in the way that the moon landings or the older space program did.

There&#039;s something in the current cultural climate that does not engage with the exciting possibilities that are embedded in the science journals everyday.

Need something like a Harry Potter in space to get youngsters excited about the subject again...

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of it may be that there aren&#8217;t many scientific developments lately that have caught the popular imagination in the way that the moon landings or the older space program did.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something in the current cultural climate that does not engage with the exciting possibilities that are embedded in the science journals everyday.</p>
<p>Need something like a Harry Potter in space to get youngsters excited about the subject again&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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